45: Avoidance

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45: Avoidance

Post by Nitronomer » Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:48 pm

I know you're supposed to make a swimmer species that avoids the middle cell cluster, but its much, MUCH easier than that.

Have the initial cell a glueocyte, that splits into a lipocyte and a secrecyte (no adhesion). The lipocyte jist brings the count up by existing and the secrecyte is set to -1 to prevent the cell cluster from triggering. The secrecyte stays attached to the cluster, absorbing energy and spawning more lipocytes to bring the cell count up. Soon enough, you win.

As much as I enjoy finding loopholes and such, I dont think this is the intended solution, so I suggest removing secrecyte from the cell options in avoidance.

Anyone agree?
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Re: 45: Avoidance

Post by Alast » Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:53 pm

Wow, that's clever! I've never thought of that. I think you're right and either the Secrocyte or the Glueocyte should be removed.

Really cool find :-)
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Re: 45: Avoidance

Post by Nitronomer » Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:04 am

Yknow, I dont understand why most of the cells there are useable. Why would you need something like a bouyocyte?
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Re: 45: Avoidance

Post by Sakaaaaa » Sat Jul 30, 2016 5:14 am

Haha thx mate
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Re: 45: Avoidance

Post by Reaper Elite » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:02 pm

Love the solution hahaha but my secro keeps dying at some point even though it's got constant nutrients.

Ps I hope this solution stays. :lol:
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Re: 45: Avoidance

Post by Alast » Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:23 pm

That solution should not stay possible. I will check with Petter to disable it. Nitroswimmer outsmarted me here and that deserves respect :-) But that was a design flaw that needs fixing.
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Re: 45: Avoidance

Post by Reaper Elite » Sat Jul 30, 2016 7:55 pm

Curse you nitro for exposing this wonderous solution. :evil:
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Re: 45: Avoidance

Post by bwisialo » Tue Aug 09, 2016 6:18 am

Brilliant find! I agree that Secrocrocytes (or Glueocytes) should be removed.

@Nitronomer - In general, all unlocked cell types are made available for use except those that result in unintended solutions, and those types aren't made available.
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Re: 45: Avoidance

Post by bwisialo » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:42 am

Hi Petter -

Neurocytes should also be removed because they can perform the same function as the Secrocyte.

Virocytes should be removed because they can be used to change the Senseocyte so that nothing is detected, to change the Stemocyte so that detection causes no change, etc..
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Re: 45: Avoidance

Post by Botcell » Fri Dec 23, 2016 4:16 am

Uh well I did try a all black swimmer and it goes around undetected for a while but they get stuck somewhere around 160-180 then they drop or somehow the initial cells detect them.
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