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Re: Conservative

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 12:40 am
by CandyYAHFT
I'm designing a new challenge, but the species I'm putting there, are ...
too weird, I'm improving them, cause by now a sutil difference in nutrients means either never reproducing, or over reproducing, still don't know why, I was trying to make a nitro-lipo-stereo-neuro-crawler
you know, the thing of a stereoworm like species, but with myocytes, and now I'm close to figure it out, but still can totally develop it in a envirorment where it has advantage over the stereoswimmers, but I'm close, I'm sure I'm close

Re: Conservative

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:47 am
by bwisialo
The crawler has a Stereocyte, correct? Does it really turn / bend well enough to get significant benefits from having a Stereocyte? If not, I could see how it would just die at low nutrient levels, but as the nutrients increase, cross a threshold where bending wouldn't be that relevant and its population would jump up. Just a possibility.

Re: Conservative

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:03 am
by CandyYAHFT
As we usually reffer as swimmers any species that moves through flagellocytes, except for my "worms" they're something I totally made up, because they were too long like to just call them swimmers, I tough it kind of right to call species that moves from myocytes crawlers, but anyway, the thing is more complicated, the stereocyte has to work ciclycally or kind of to work for a "scavenger", because to crawl a myocyte needs a neurocyte oscillating, and I can't figure out how to do that with stereocytes.

Re: Conservative

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:08 am
by bwisialo
Which part haven't you figured out? How to get a Stereocyte to work cyclically?

If it's a Friction type sort of environment, of course it would have an advantage over Stereoswimmers -- they can't even move there. ;)

Re: Conservative

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 2:51 pm
by CandyYAHFT
Yeah, but then the eggs don't spread enough.
What I'm trying to do now probabbly has to be bigger, because I'm thinking that a 6 celled crawler worm is a posibble solution.
Myocyte in head, then neurocyte, then stereocyte, then the other myocyte, at the end it should be twin head phagocyte lipocyte, but then it doesn't move because there's too much weight in the tail, so I'm going to do some work in split mass, and modes, so lipocyte is in the head.

Re: Conservative

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 3:28 pm
by CandyYAHFT
Why a myocyte can't move a lipocyte, I'm using 2 myocytes to crawl and the thing doesn't move, I got enough bending from the stereocyte, but now, I guess the problem is something related to pushing, when a myocyte crawls, the back cells got pushed, all to each other, but when a cell is a lipocyte the thing can't, and reproducing through middle lipocytes is a headache, because myocytes waste much more energy than what I think they should, so they will vanish because the lipocyte is gonna starve them, I guess myocytes as how they actually are, are simply useless

Re: Conservative

Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2016 4:49 pm
by Alast
I use Lipocytes for my Friction solution and it works just fine. I also just put together a Stereocrawler. Not at all optimized and the Stereocyte maybe should be in the front but it kind of works:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2uzy8p00nw9j6 ... enome?dl=0