Balloons

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Nayus
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Balloons

Post by Nayus » Sun Sep 16, 2018 11:39 pm

Balloons

Difficulty: PhD

Progress: Unlocks gene Myocyte and further challenges

Description: Our politicians have introduced patent laws to help foster technological advancements.
We can now not use the solution to Floaters II anymore without paying a huge license fee for the Buoyocytes. Our budget now only allows for one Buoyocyte per genome and we can thus not make an equally efficient species anymore.
We have had to lower our ambitions for this substrate to 200 cells. Can you work around the limitations posed by the patent laws by using the Neurocyte?


Win Conditions: 200 or more user cells for 100h using 1 buoyocyte in the genome

Hint: Use the longest time on the oscillator preset. Make sure to set the Neurocyte adhesin connections to what the case is in your organism


General Strategy: Make a programmable buoyocyte that oscillates its density and therefor making it go up and down

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Re: Balloons

Post by MachoNacho » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:01 pm

Please someone give me a genome to solve this, mine just keeps going up or down, never switches, and then starves
I am a hyper-n (o) (o) b who doesn't understand complex creatures. Expect me to ask for genomes.
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Alast
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Re: Balloons

Post by Alast » Sat Jan 05, 2019 10:16 pm

You could use that to your advantage :-) My solution first goes down and then up. By balancing that well you can solve the challenge.
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Re: Balloons

Post by wapcaplet » Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:02 am

Some keys to making it work:

- Use the oscillator preset on the neurocyte, and don't mess with the individual signal settings
- Have a buoyocyte that changes density based on S1 or S2 multiplied, instead of using a constant density value

If you can share your genome with Dropbox or even describe how it is set up, we could help you troubleshoot it.
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Re: Balloons

Post by H4yw1r3 » Sun Jan 06, 2019 3:24 am

I solved this with Buoycytes that reacts to Cell Mass.
Are complex creatures too advanced for you to understand?
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Re: Balloons

Post by Alast » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:45 am

Right, since the latest update that's possible, too :-)
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Re: Balloons

Post by MachoNacho » Sun Jan 06, 2019 4:48 pm

I actually managed to find a genome for it so nvm
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Re: Balloons

Post by GummyPop » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:45 pm

Ughhh I'm stuck....I have tried to make the genome based on the tutorial and then I tried someone else's genome and nothing works they still disappear.... :cry:
Can someone please help
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Re: Balloons

Post by Bmeupsctty » Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:28 pm

Ok, I'm trying desperately to understand this. I've created a basic cell group with a bouyocyte on top of a neurocyte, with a phagocyte on bottom splitting.

I keep trying to play with the settings in the bouyocyte but it either stays still, raises, or sinks only. I can't seem to get the S1 signal to cross the +/- threshold.

I did as the hint said and tried just maxing the oscillation. But when I observe I can't see the neurocyte having an effect on the bouyocyte at all...

What am I doing wrong?
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Re: Balloons

Post by Gabriel Stark » Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:15 am

Bmeupsctty wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 2:28 pm
Ok, I'm trying desperately to understand this. I've created a basic cell group with a bouyocyte on top of a neurocyte, with a phagocyte on bottom splitting.

I keep trying to play with the settings in the bouyocyte but it either stays still, raises, or sinks only. I can't seem to get the S1 signal to cross the +/- threshold.

I did as the hint said and tried just maxing the oscillation. But when I observe I can't see the neurocyte having an effect on the bouyocyte at all...

What am I doing wrong?
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- There are few possibilities:
- about the neurocyte * you need to set the number of adhesin connections to 2
* to set the oscillation period to the max (probably around 9 hours - not in actual time :))
- about the buyocyte * to make the density programmable - (choose "use cell state" and set a = max; b = 0)

And start the simulation on observe to set it later on incubate. And wait

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